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The allies of WWII agreed that after the war, Germany must never again be allowed to become a threat. It was planned to break Germany up into several different states, demilitarize and deindustrialize them while encouraging the development of national identities within the new states to discourage reunification.

But like most things, it did not go exactly to plan. German industry was too valuable for the dream of Germany becoming quiet little agrarian nations to come true, and the threat of the USSR meant that German defence forces had to become serious militaries capable of not only national defence but supporting the allies in the event of a Soviet invasion.

Despite the hopes of the German Union Party and several banned National Socialist groups, Germany has remained divided, with 11 nations being created from pre-Anschluss Germany.

The Rhenish Republic and Saar Protectorate are close allies of France, with more people from these nations in the French military than in their own countries, indeed so many join up that France had to create a separate Legion for Germans.

Far to the east is Lusatia, a nation created for the Slavic Sorbs, supported by Poland and Czechoslovakia. Despite expulsions of Germans and financial incentives for Sorbs to have many children around 60% of Lusatia's population is still German, though most are proud to be a part of Lusatia and over 80% can speak a Sorbian language.

Hanover has a close relationship with the United Kingdom, which entered into a personal union with the UK once again. Willimshaven has become a major Royal Navy base and large numbers of British troops are stationed in Hanover and the King's German Legion was recreated to recruite Hanoverians, who's reputation for toughness and loyalty to their adopted nation is rivaled only by the Ghurkhas and Fijians.

In addition to these new states, much of Germany was annexed by other nations, Poland, Denmark and the Netherlands took the lion's share while Heligoland was returned to the United Kingdom.

With the fall of Nazi Germany, Europe lost the enemy that had united it and factions started to turn against each other. In Greece a bloody civil war raged, eventually being won by the National Army thanks to American and British support, and Greek antipathy for the communist's Bulgarian and Albanian allies.

In the Baltic things were more complex. The Western Allies and covertly, Finland and Sweden, aided the Forest Brothers and the governments in exile in their fight against the USSR, but by 1949 only Estonia had managed to hold any territory, controlling the West Estonian archipelago. Despite several attempts the Soviet Union had not managed to retake the islands and so agreed to call a truce.

The Estonian government was bankrupt, it's islands ravaged by years of Soviet bombing and shelling and it's islands had fairly small populations and weak economies.
To try and recover the Estonian government requested annexation by Finland so it could become an autonomous region, along the lines of the Ĺland Islands with the right to secede if Estonia were to be liberated. As Finland had several non-aggression treaties with the USSR, the Soviets supported this move and on January 3rd 1950, Free Estonia united with Finland.

To start with after WWII the USSR had quite a significant sphere of influence in the Balkans and surrounding area, however this has been eroded with time.

Yugoslavia from the start was controlled by it's own communists, not those picked by the USSR, and has since drifted towards the rest of Europe. While certainly still socialist they haven't listened to the Kremlin in a long time and relations with Western Europe are close and cooperative.

Albania, despite being allowed to keep large areas of land seized from Yugoslavia, drifted away from both Yugoslavia and the USSR, and has effectively cut it self off from the rest of the world, becoming something of an autarky, only reaching out to different nations when it really needs something. The main export of Albania is electricity from it's 5 nuclear power plants, which provide far more power than the nation needs.

Bulgaria was the only nation to remain loyal to the USSR, and in 1956 joined the USSR as the 16th Republic, it's southerly position and access to the Aegean makes Bulgaria popular with tourists and military strategists alike.

Romania showed the most dramatic break of any of the nations in the USSR's shadow, with a conservative, bordering on fascist government taking over. Romania is exceedingly hostile to the USSR, and has vowed to one day retake the lands taken from it during WWII, though given what a great tool the promise of reunification is for controlling it's own people, and fact that Romania has had at least twenty nuclear weapons for the past decade indicates it's not all that serious about trying.

In the heart of the oppressive Romanian Republic is a enclave of freedom and democracy, the Hungarian Autonomous Region. The Region's autonomy is guaranteed because of Hungarian aid to Romania, and Hungary supporting Romania internationally. In effect, Romania has been holding the Székelys hostage for the past 60 years and shows no sign of stopping.

Despite being at opposite ends of the political spectrum, Romania and Albania maintain good relations, as international pariahs they need any friends they can get. In 1998 Romania created the Community of Free Nations, where various Rogue and Pariah states, including Aceh, Albania, Bioko, Narińo, Nicaragua, Romania, Somalia and Tamil Eelam can co-operate and trade together.
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artneo151 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014
so, ''Narińo'' goes up to Buenaventura? interesting I Guess Colombia (or what's left of it) is even more dependant on US aid to just survive... or is that gone too?
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lamnay Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014
Nope, all the way up to Panama.

The USA would still support Colombia, the don't want the mess from Peru to spread.
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artneo151 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014
damn, well that crazy general is one of those ''bastards... but OUR bastards''

did anyone else broke away or just them?
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lamnay Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014
Just him in Colombia, if you don't count the rebels.

This is the world.
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artneo151 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
Narińo? why do I believe the Colombian Conflict got WAY worse...
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lamnay Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
Things were a little worse than they ever were in reality.

Then the Shining Path took over in Peru and started pouring arms and weapons into Colombia. Then they got tired of the ELN and FARC and decided to set up their own Maoist rebel organisation, which fought the Government and the rebels.

With all that chaos a General decided to break away and grabbed all the land between the Pacific and the Andes. He's a brutal dictator, but if you don't dissent his country is a lot safer than the rest of Colombia, and he's one of the least crazy members of the Community of Free Nations.
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MaxxyKomiksowicz Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
Oh,Poland is bigger.
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BorgCollective359 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
How can Prussia be Prussia without Prussia proper - i.e. East Prussia?
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lamnay Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
Once Prussia meant Baltic pagans, meanings change.
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Xumarov Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
they should have divided germany. like first ww
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:iconlamnay:
lamnay Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2012
Pardon? What do you mean?
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Xumarov Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
nothing nvm
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wookiee173 Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2012
What happened to Hitler in this world?
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lamnay Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2012
He died in much the same way. The second World War did, though the Soviet advance was slower.
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UurdTurshiltyn Featured By Owner May 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I was reading the map key and for a second I though that the Vatican had taken control of Finland. xD
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lamnay Featured By Owner May 19, 2012
Lol, not likely.
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3vatk0 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011
Great Britain 2020 = Indian/Pakistan province : )
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lamnay Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011
What?
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3vatk0 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011
that's what will happen to GB :)
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:iconlamnay:
lamnay Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011
It will be divided by two hostile states halfway around the world in only 9 years?
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3vatk0 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2011
-.- no...
Once India and Pakistan were colonies of the British Empire, nowadays the number of Indians and Pakistani people in that state grows rapidly. I didn't said it would be divided between those faraway countries but with the growth of the pakistan and indian population in GB , the true british will be a minority and the state would be a province either of pakistan or of india :) similar things will happen to France (with the the Moroccan, Tunissians..) Germany with the Turks :)
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lamnay Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2011
:D

Yeah 4% of the population are going to forget their loyalties and decided to take over and then they are going to request annexation by India or Pakistan. All my old mates are gonna turn up at my house and tell me that they own me now. :D

Oh man, if you seriously believe that you need to relax.
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3vatk0 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2011
May God give as health and life so that we see who's right :D
p.s i'm not worried at all :) that's what west Europe deserves :)
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lamnay Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2011
Bah, we made the Normans English and they literally invaded us.
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Lehnaru Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Poor Prussia. :(
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lamnay Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011
It's independent and didn't get absorbed entirely by Poland and have all the German residents kicked out. I'd say it's a happier ending for Prussia than in real life.

Thanks for all the favs!
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Lehnaru Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Fair enough, but it lost the original eastern heartland. :(
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lamnay Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011
True, but if they didn't Poland would have been squashed. I try not to make perfect worlds.
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Lehnaru Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I still say Kaliningrad Oblast should be renamed to Prussia Oblast, and Kaliningrad should be renamed to Königsberg.
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lamnay Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011
But these days it's a Russian town with Russian people.
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Lehnaru Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
That could be very easily changed >:D
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lamnay Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2011
You can't kick people out of their homes like that. That's what the Soviets did in the first place.
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Bre-ssan Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2011
what happened to Baden and Württemberg?
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lamnay Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2011
They were made part of Bavaria.
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Bre-ssan Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2011
but, Are they autonomous states of Bavaria or they are only regions?
and also:
Why Hesse-Darmstadt is part of Bavaria and isn't part of Hesse state?
What is the form of government in Austria, Bavaria and Hungary?

sorry, if I made many questions.
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lamnay Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2011
I don't mind the questions, it makes me think.

Germany was split up to ensure that they could never be a threat again, but their were lots of competing ideas about how to do it. Some thought their should be a few big ones, others wanted lots of tiny ones. In the mire of different interests and comprise "South Germany" ended up being Bavaria, but it kept all the territory assigned to South Germany. That's why it has so many non-Bavarian areas as part of the Bavaria.

The states are suppose to be small, weak rumps which is why not everyone gets all their pre-unification territory.

Bavaria is devolved like the UK and Spain. Not quite a federation, but Baden and Württemberg have some autonomy.

Austria and Bavaria are both constitutional monarchies, as are many of the post-German states. Hungary is Republic, though lots of people want to be in a personal union with Austria. Hungary also has an unusual relationship with Romania. In the middle of Romania is a autonomous zone for Hungarians, and in exchange for it's protection Hungary supports Romania, despite Romania being a sort of fascist North Korea.
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GigoXXIII Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Very interesting which an on going cold war and all, especialy the fact that germany has been even more broken up, while I'm not one to start violence and I don't have a problem with germany I can't help but fell that it should have ended up a little like this, I'm not sure why I just do. At anyrate great map :)
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lamnay Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011
Thanks, I prefer the world with a United Germany, but I mad this world so it was not much better or worse than ours.
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GigoXXIII Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Its not easy to make a world thats different but no better or worse. On the side have you by any chance read The Prisoners of Silence AH or what there is on it, its a scary and realistic take on a nazi europe with a three way cold war with Neuropa vs Nato vs Cominturn (sp?). The only real positive (in my opinion) thing about is that The United Kingdom is closer to its dominions (not South Africa however) due to most of europe been under german hugemony.

[link](History-and-background)
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lamnay Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011
I've seen that map before, but I did not know the story behind it.

It does not have to be exactly as good as our world, it can be a little worse or a little better. But if you don't have angels and assholes, I think it feels fake.

In some ways this world is much better, the Soviets never dominated Eastern Europe as they did in our world, and they are still around but more mellow, so there are less poor angry Russians in the world. On the downside Romania's basically a fascist North Korea in Europe with better nukes and the Chinese are pushing Maoism wherever they can.
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adjt111 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011
I think it's funny how Prussia does not control the territores of East and West Prussia.
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lamnay Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011
Hmm, funny that.
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elparasito Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011
england kausay'ta wiqrurqan
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lamnay Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011
Pardon?
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elparasito Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011
imataq?
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lamnay Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2011
What are you asking?
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elparasito Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2011
Imataq nichkanki?
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frazamm Featured By Owner May 14, 2011
What happens to Malta in this scenario? Are they still part of the British Empire?
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lamnay Featured By Owner May 14, 2011
Malta was the first place in the Empire to get integrated, and thanks to that the UK's overseas odds and sods look a lot more like France's overseas departments, with proper representation back home.

Also because of Enosis, Malta's value as a military base increased.

Oh and bird hunting is well under control.
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frazamm Featured By Owner May 18, 2011
Don't get me started on bird hunting!
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